but my argument to you was i wondered whether mitt romney could be better for the american economy. >> god no. you know why? >> you were having none of it. >> do you know why? there have been businessmen who have turned presidents, i think herbert hoover, george bush, the first george bush. businessmen. i think there was a couple of others. lousy presidents. businessmen make lousy presidents. >> why have you been so consistently supportive of obama? >> i can't even imagine thinking about what would happen to the supreme court if a republican were the president, you know? i mean, citizens united is a horrible thing that people can spend and waste this amount of money on elections? think of all the -- you know, the people that could benefit from that money, you know? >> there have been two elections since i've been in america, there have been two elections where one party has had far more financial firepower than the other. one was here in california with meg whitman, one was nationally, but romney clearly had more money than obama. for most of that campaign. in both cases, the one with